The Making Theatre Podcast

This time we are talking to Laura Cubitt about her experience as puppeteer and puppetry director. Laura was part of the team that brought the iconic Warhorse, Joey, to life and this is a fascinating insight into a world that is, by it's very nature, secretive if not entirely hidden away. We learn that puppetry has a parallel with lighting; often no-one notices you if you're doing your job well. We hear about the mysterious pleasure to be found in the 'suffering state' and how despite the sweat and cramps, it can be the most thrilling version of performing, with lines of communication akin to a virtuoso jazz trio. We also discover that humans and puppets are successfully holding the line against the onslaught of CGI and AI - in many ways, this interview is a celebration of the humanity at the heart of Making Theatre.

This time we talk to Nick Hytner about forming the London Theatre Company and creating it's first home - the Bridge Theatre at One, Tower Bridge. If like us you ever paused to wonder how someone goes about starting a theatre, this episode provides a fascinating insight into the process. From the hunt for the venue, and the hair-raising rollercoaster of finding investors and securing funding, to the relationship with the architect and the design of the stage, auditorium, foyer and backstage space, we chart the journey of the Bridge from small, scrappy start-up to sell out run of Guys and Dolls. In a wide-ranging interview, Nick also offers some choice observations and sage advice from a directing career that spans forty years and includes a decade spent running that other little place on the South Bank, the National Theatre...

This time we talk to Lucy Carter about her extensive career designing lighting for contemporary dance, her analysis of her working practice and her extraordinary collaboration with choreographer Wayne McGregor, which spans three decades.

The National Theatre is committed to achieving net zero carbon by 2030, the greatest creative challenge it has ever undertaken. This time we are talking to Paul Handley, Production and Technical Director at the NT about his search for a more sustainable model of theatre making.  We hear about the many and varied ways that staff are trying to limit their environmental impact while still delivering world class theatre. We discuss why it is so important to reflect our values not only in the work we make onstage, but in the way we make it. We also reflect upon the need to get away from the language of dreary limitation, how it is the artists who are actually the people who can lead the way forward and while we should be ready to fail, in the words of Samual Beckett, we must ‘try again, fail again, fail better’. We also learn that there’s nothing that can’t be solved with a pencil, a piece of paper…and a fresh white t-shirt. This episode was recorded at the end of 2022